I recently watched the archived interview of Phil Cooke and Brad Abare.
Phil is a writer, media consultant and filmmaker. His company, Cooke Pictures, advises many of the largest non-profit and faith-based media organizations in the world. And Brad is the founder of Church Marketing Sucks and director of communications for the Foursquare Church.
It was unbelievable! I tried to get work done at the same time…but dab-nabit…it didn’t work out that way 
In all honesty though, it was a really great interview. And you can see it here!
